Thursday, February 22, 2007

Tainted Numbers...

Hey everybody!!! Just wanted to thank you for the comments that some of you have left me. Some have been humurous and others have been creative. There is one person who keeps asking for a some insight on some beach volleyball...I will email you that one separately. May not go over too well in this space. I would also like to encourage everyone to forward this blog-site to anyone else that may be of interest in something like this. The more the merrier and it would encourage even more feedback and comments...which is what this blogging stuff is all about!!!

Now...onto what bugs me!!!!

The records of goalies and coaches are being tainted by the shoot-out!!! To put it simply, any winning record that gets set by either a goalie or a coach should have an asterisk next to it. When a team wins in the shoot-out, both the coach and the goalie get credited for the win. The player that scores a goal in the shoot-out doesn't accumulate a point toward the scoring race. That means that all other coaches and goalies who have set records for wins could have had better numbers. Back when games could end in a tie, neither the coach nor the goalie would get the win (obviously). For example, if you look at the 1,244 wins that Scotty Bowman achieved, he amassed 314 ties over his illustrious career? It would be safe to say that if he had the shoot-out he may have gotten another 150 wins. How about Patrick Roy's numbers? He holds the record for most wins by a goalie at 551. He had 131 ties. It would also be safe to say that he could've gained another 65 wins out of those ties had it been for the shoot-out. Now Ottawa Senators coach, Bryan Murray has just been credited with his 600th career win. However, it was done in a shoot-out! These numbers are fudging the accomplishments of past record-setters who didn't have the luxury of shoot-outs. In order for the records to be broken and set by the present-day hockey personnel then the NHL has to rule out any accomplishments achieved from the results of a shoot-out. In other words, give the team the points in the standings for the win but the goalie and the coach should not get the credit for the win. If they are still tied at the end of overtime then their stats should show a tie. The NHL has to address this situation as soon as possible and correct the numbers before it gets out of hand. If they don't then the record books will be filled with a whole lot of asterisks...which will only cloud the achievements of the past!!

That's my beef for the week!!!!

I appreciate your time...comments are appreciated!!!

Go BRUINS Go...
The Rokpig...

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree with you.In 1976-77 The Montreal Canadiens had a record of 60-8-12 (80 game season)with and incredible 1 loss at home.132 points with out the overtime games.
In 1995-96 The Detroit Red Wings had a record of 62-13-7 (82 game season) but also had 4 OT wins as well.Put an asterisks there as well.
What about all those 50 plus goal scores in the '80s and '90s!
It was easy to do because nobody really hit and the teams were all depleted of good players and weak goaltending!Richard did it in 50 games....only matched by Weener and Mario.(I think Bossy did it as well)
I would live to see the NHL go back to the win/lose/tie again and see how all the teams play for the win near the end of regulation time.
Also Rokpig.....a little music trivia question.
Who does the vocals on Pink Floyds "Have a Cigar"?
See for a beer......
Habs Fan

Scott said...

I agree... but you could argue the same point about other stats because the players of today are not equipped the same as players of the past.

Slapshot speed, for example. The speeds nowadays are enhanced by the composite sticks, or more flexible sticks.

Times change. Equipment changes. Rules change. Players gain advantage with those changes. :)

ROKPIG said...

True Scott...times change and players change however the stats shouldn't. Composite sticks make the puck travel faster but the goalies have better equipment to stop them. Also, these composite sticks are only good until they shatter..how many times have you seen a player on a break-away and his composite stick shatters while he shoots? Way too many times and the good old wooden stick never shattered...it would break but not half as often as the composite would shatter.

Sorry Scott...I still believe the Shoot-out should not count toward a coach's or goalie's stats!!!

Thanks for the feedback!!!
CHEERS!!!!
The Rokpig!!!

Renaud said...

Roy Harper sang lead vocal on "Have A Cigar". He also played left wing.